tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5455383.post1160145898405364064..comments2023-10-08T18:46:47.526+03:00Comments on E-man and the Masters of the University: A Depressing Peace IndexEmmanuelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02270751138155111328noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5455383.post-59813147388900277182007-10-22T17:49:00.000+02:002007-10-22T17:49:00.000+02:00Anyhoos, we're a long way away from the point of m...Anyhoos, we're a long way away from the point of mutual apologies. At the current rate of progress, we might never get there...<BR/><BR/>Glad to see though that someone is at least contemplating the prospect of a settlement.Gerthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07752117708821629614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5455383.post-62724059590655545922007-10-21T21:52:00.000+02:002007-10-21T21:52:00.000+02:00"we accept responsibility and we meant everything ...<I>"we accept responsibility and we meant everything we did, so there..."</I><BR/><BR/>Here's the thing - saying we're sorry for the Naqba is kind of like saying we're sorry we won our war of independence. We may be sorry the Palestinians suffered because of it but aren't really sorry that it happened.Emmanuelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02270751138155111328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5455383.post-27647748873762714822007-10-21T19:20:00.000+02:002007-10-21T19:20:00.000+02:00"Accepting responsibility is not the same as apolo...<I>"Accepting responsibility is not the same as apologizing."</I><BR/><BR/>No, it isn't but isn't it difficult to accept responsibility without issuing some kind of apology? Doesn't "we accept responsibility but we're not going to apologise" sound rather cold? A bit like saying, "we accept responsibility and we meant everything we did, <I>so there...</I>"?Gerthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07752117708821629614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5455383.post-50190960621204344692007-10-21T17:03:00.000+02:002007-10-21T17:03:00.000+02:00I haven't thought of writing them. Their e-mail ad...I haven't thought of writing them. Their e-mail address appears on the center's homepage if you want to contact them.Emmanuelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02270751138155111328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5455383.post-74292631561400758772007-10-21T15:19:00.000+02:002007-10-21T15:19:00.000+02:00Funnily enough I was just looking for this online ...Funnily enough I was just looking for this online today, to link to in my follow-up to you. I didn't know the latest one had just been released.<BR/><BR/>You wonder whether "Maybe some respondents took this to mean giving up all of East Jerusalem, including the Western Wall, which might explain the resistance." It would be interesting to know if this could be determined. I haven't yet had a chance to skim through the report as yet; have you thought of writing to the Centre or is there some other feedback mechanism?Annhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14669907426663593737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5455383.post-91616282618451547302007-10-20T22:39:00.000+02:002007-10-20T22:39:00.000+02:00Well, the recognition of responsibility would come...Well, the recognition of responsibility would come together with all the rest of the more physical stuff, not before or instead of any of it.<BR/><BR/>It wouldn't be an apology, either. Accepting responsibility is not the same as apologizing.Emmanuelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02270751138155111328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5455383.post-88595441904930334492007-10-20T19:45:00.000+02:002007-10-20T19:45:00.000+02:00"Here's a question I'd like the next surveys to in...<I>"Here's a question I'd like the next surveys to include: would you agree to accept responsibility for the Naqbah and the refugee problem, at least partial responsibility, and to compensate the refugees in exchange for peace? I'd agree to that if the Palestinians gave up on the right of return, but I don't know if most Israelis would."</I><BR/><BR/>Apologies for peace, <I>huh</I>? (wink)<BR/><BR/>Seriously, it's probably best to keep the mutual apologies for when (ever) a lasting, workable has been firmly established. Compensation is another matter, that is in my view the only solution to a non-return situation.Gerthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07752117708821629614noreply@blogger.com